18-55mm f/4-5.6 IS STM v 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 III

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  1. Mattr

    Mattr New Member

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    I’m looking at getting my first DSLR or mirrorless camera soon upgrading from a canon Powershot. I have narrowed it down to the m50 and the 250d. For me the m50 and 250d are basically the same body with a few pros and cons for each one that balance out. My main concern is what kit lense to get with them the options are:

    250d with a 18-55mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Lens - €590
    250d with a 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 III Lens - €570
    M50 with 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM Lens - €570

    I’m new to lenses, but from what I gather the STM is image stabilisation and that lense has better zoom than the 15-45mm that comes with the m50. Personally I want something versatile with decent zoom. If anybody had any advice I would really appreciate it!
     

  2. Craig Sherriff

    Craig Sherriff Well-Known Member Site Supporter

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    Welcome to the forum, Mattr, the best thing to do is go down to you local camera store and ask to try the camera and lenses out and get a feel the the ones you are interested in, other people options are generally based on there needs and requirements which may differ from yours
     
  3. Caladina

    Caladina Well-Known Member

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    i have the M50, my recommendation for photography would be to either get the twin lens kit which has the 15-45mm and the 55-200mm or the single lens kit which has the 18-150mm lens (probably the best option)
    there is nothing wrong with the single lens kit of the 15-45mm just that the other two options give a wider range.
    If you are more into videography then the 15-45mm kit will be the better choice.

    if you like the idea of the better zoom lenses, i bought a second hand body in like new condition from MPB.COM in the uk as a second camera, they sell excellent stuff, never had any problems with them.
    getting a second hand good body might afford you a better lens option
    you will want at least one extra battery so factor that into your cost.

    i've had the M50 a year and a half, its been a great little camera great big camera, i love the smaller form factor of the M50 with its native M lenses and the ability to go out with 400mm+ lenses for wildlife shoots

    i don't have the other stuff you mention so i can't share a view on those
    best of luck and welcome to the forum
    what types of photography are you interested in the most?
     
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  4. johnsey

    johnsey Site Moderator Staff Member Site Supporter

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    Hello Mattr,
    What are your primary uses for the camera?? (this could include weather its still or video, subject matter you prefer, etc)
    As you identified both cameras are a few years old and aimed at the entry level side of their markets. The 250D is a crop DSLR and the M50 is a crop mirror-less body, the mirror-less will be more compact and has its own line of lenses in that mount.
    • Honestly the zoom difference is minute between 45 and 55, but something you may notice slightly, at that mm you can make up the deference in distance by taking a step or two closer or away from the subject. All 3 lenses mentioned are basically the same when it comes to zoom, and they all focus on wide angle.
    • STM is the step motor which gives you almost silent focusing and would be better for video. IS is the image stabilization, this is helpful at slow shutter speeds and on long lenses, in my opinion its a bigger deal if you have a 200 or 300mm lens.
    • DSLR or Mirrorless? Well the DSLR is a bit bulkier and has been a staple for decades and has a very large market of lenses in a variety or brands, and new and used price points. The mirror-less is more compact new technology, and has a much smaller lens line, but you can adapter those larger lenses to it.
    • If your looking at having a single lens you may have to explore a 18-150 or a 55-250 or whatever for the camera you pick and also depending on subject matter. You probably will find it easier to have at least 2 zooms a short and a long one, but that is all again dependent on preference. You can see why I asked about usage and subject matter.
    I stop here and let you chew on the couple of points about differences and similarities of what you are looking at.
     
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  5. Mattr

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    Hi Craig, Caladina and johnsey

    Thank you for your reply! There is a lot of really useful information there, I am going to go into my local camera store on Monday when they reopen. I want to use the camera mostly for landscapes and street photography with many some portraits in the future but that not a priority for now.

    I really want to see the size of the M50 in person, I have seen the 250D and I liked the size a lot. At the end of the day, they both seem like great starter cameras that I would be more than happy with. The fact there isn't much difference between the lenses is reassuring, I am having a hard time trying to find places that have any of them in stock and Brexit isn't making it easier!

    I really appreciate you help,
    Matt
     
  6. johnsey

    johnsey Site Moderator Staff Member Site Supporter

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    Let us know how that goes, I agree both would make a good entry camera, I would suggest if all is equal cost wise that you should get a lens with IS and STM if you can. For landscapes you want to shot off IS on a tripod shot, but its nice to have for when you need to get a a shot at 1/30 of a second and you would have camera shake otherwise.
     
  7. Caladina

    Caladina Well-Known Member

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    one difference with the 250d and the M50, a mirrorless camera (M50) can never back or front focus (leads to a slightly out of focus image until you retune the camera)
     

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